June and July |
Research employers interviewing on campus or requesting
resumes via “collect” or “direct”
Students must enter personal profile and upload resumes
prior to bidding
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Monday August 6 |
Student bidding begins at 9:00 a.m. (Phase #1) of
OCI (employers interviewing 8/28-8/31) |
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Monday, August 13 |
Phase #1 bidding closes at 12:00 p.m. |
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Friday, August 17 |
Phase #1 interview schedules available online at
5:00 p.m. |
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Tuesday, August 14 |
Phase #2 bidding begins at 9:00 a.m. (employers
interviewing 9/3-9/14) |
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Monday, August 20 |
Phase #2 student bidding closes at 12:00 p.m. |
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Tueday, August 21 |
Phase #3 bidding begins at 9:00 a.m. (employers
interviewing 9/17-10/19) |
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Thursday, August 23 |
Phase #2 interview schedules available online at
5:00 p.m. |
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Tuesday, August 28 |
On-Campus interviews begin |
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Monday, September 3 |
LABOR DAY -
Phase #3 student bidding closes at 12:00 p.m.
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Thursday, September 6 |
Phase #3 interview schedules available online at
5:00 p.m. |
Each year, the Law School conducts an On-Campus Interviewing
(OCI) program that attracts law firms, government agencies,
and public interest employers from throughout the U.S. Employers
come to campus to interview students for summer and permanent
employment. Generally, fall On- Campus Interviewing (OCI)
results in jobs for 25 to 33% of each graduating class, compared
to 12% nationally. The smaller spring OCI program provides
additional employment opportunities. Do not be discouraged
if you do not obtain a job through OCI-most students find
jobs using targeted job search strategies and networking.
The CSO staff can help you identify the resources and strategies
that will benefit you most. You may also want to review the
section on Interviewing.
Based on NALP regulations, students cannot interview until
after December 15 of their first year and therefore 1Ls
do
not participate in fall OCI. Visit http://www.nalp.org/principles/index.php for more information. However, all students are eligible
to
participate in spring OCI.
1. Review the OCI information online via Symplicity
over the summer. Identify employers of interest and carefully
check the calendar for important dates and deadlines. Deadlines
are final, with no exceptions.
2. Research
employers with whom you would like to interview, noting
their stated hiring criteria to determine eligibility. Deadlines
for scheduling interviews occur before you return to school
so you must prepare over the summer.
3. Submit your personal profile and resume online by the
calendar deadline. We must send your resume to employers in
advance of the interviews; consequently, you will not be allowed
to interview if we have not received these documents on time.
TIP: If necessary, send us your resume during the summer to
have it reviewed. You can even e-mail
or fax (574-631-4789) it to us if you wish!
4. Place your "bid" for interviews before the stated
deadline. Read about Bidding for Interviews below.
5. Retrieve your schedule well in advance of the interviews
to avoid potential time conflicts or other problems that
could
be handled in advance. Your schedule will be available online
via Symplicity on
the dates posted. All relevant information, including interview
location and times, is on that schedule. Occasionally,
we
will not know the name of the interviewer until after your
schedule has been printed. Employer schedules, with recruiter
names, will be posted on the bulletin boards in the Resource
Center on the day before each interview.
Bidding is the process by which you identify employers, in
order of preference, with whom you would like to interview.
Symplicity will randomly assign interviews based on rank
of bid, conflict in class schedule, class allocation
and hiring criteria. The time a bid is placed has no effect
on whether or not an interview will be awarded. Bids
will
not be allowed if a resume is not up-loaded.
- Click on
the OCI tab (Don’t forget profiles
must be completed to gain access)
- Select the correct session under search
filters and click the search button.
- Important
Dates will show when bidding takes place.
Class Schedules/Conflicts tab should be set before attempting
to bid. The dates and times of On-Campus Interviews will
show in a calendar type setting. Times when interviews
would conflict with class or other commitments should
be indicated by checking them off and clicking the submit
button at the bottom of the page. Once submitted the
time should be reflected with a blue box with the words ‘OCI
Exception’ in it.
The Employers/Bidding tab is where employers can be
viewed and bids made.
- Click the ‘I’ or Review to see more
details such as offices Interviewing For,
Additional Requests and Hiring
Criteria. Contact information
and Interviewer name can also be found here.
- The Bid tab
has a drop down menu that will show available bids.
Once you select a “bid”/rank
the screen will refresh itself. Select a resume
and enter
a Preferred
Location (if needed), then click the apply button.
If an interview has been awarded, it will be visible
from the Scheduled Interviews tab. All students on the
interview schedule will be visible to each other.
Do not bid for an interview with a firm if you do not meet
their hiring criteria; such an action reflects badly upon
you, this Office, and the Notre Dame Law School. It may also
preclude another student from interviewing with that firm.
Even though you do not know your class
rank, use the employers' posted hiring criteria to decide
whether or not you are eligible for an interview. We will
not forbid anyone from interviewing with a firm provided you
follow their guidelines. If you believe that you have a good
reason for interviewing even though you fall outside their
posted GPA, e.g., an illness affected exam grades or you have
substantial experience, you may choose to schedule an interview.
Keep in mind, however, that an employer expecting a certain
level of academic achievement may ask you to defend your presence
in the interview room if you do not appear to have the advertised
credentials.
Once bidding closes, the computer looks to see how many students
selected a firm as their first choice. It then tries to schedule
all those students, regardless of bidding order-who bid first
or last. Next, it identifies everyone who selected the firm
as their second choice, and schedules them. For many of the
employers, there are more interview slots available than interested
students, so just about everyone gets on the schedule. If
you have a very restricted schedule, however, you may not
be selected. Obviously, if more students bid for a firm than
there are slots available, there will be a waitlist, which
is explained below.
Bidding for an interview slot entails a commitment: you are
expected to accept your assigned interviews and to attend
them. Failure to honor an interview appointment may result
in a suspension of OCI privileges. Carefully review the section
on Interview Etiquette for more information.
If emergencies do occur, notify the office immediately.
The waitlist is not the end of the world! If you bid for a
popular employer and find yourself on the waitlist, here's
what you do:
- Relax! Employers receive resumes for all interested
candidates, including those on the waitlist. The employer
may call you directly to set up an interview based solely
on your resume.
- STALK the CSO! Interview schedules are printed and available
for review in the CSO. If a scheduled student cancels and
you are on the waitlist, you may take that interview slot
by writing in your name and having a CSO staff member initial
your entry. The waitlist is not ranked--anyone on the waitlist
can claim a vacant slot. First come, first served! DO NOT
attempt to bid on the computer again once the bidding closes;
all subsequent changes are done manually on the printed
schedules in binders at the CSO.
- Call the employer directly and ask if you can see the
interviewer briefly before or after their regular day. Be
creative! Other successful students have gotten "face
time" at breakfast, lunch, dinner, the evening before
or after the interview day, and even giving the interviewer
a ride to the airport (this person got the only offer from
that firm!). You don't need a full 20 minutes to make an
impression. However, "suiting up" for impromptu
meetings is strongly recommended.
- Take advantage of the breaks in the interviewer's schedule.
Each interviewer gets one break in the morning and another
in the afternoon. Show up a few minutes before their break
and introduce yourself. This shows initiative and demonstrates
your level of interest in the employer.
BY YOU: First of all, avoid doing this at all costs! One change
can disrupt the entire schedule. Do not bid for a firm unless
you really want an interview. However, if you must cancel
or adjust your time, consult the printed schedules in binders
in the CSO. You MUST have a staff member initial your change!
Unauthorized changes will be considered "no shows".
BY US: Unfortunately, employers do change and even cancel
their schedules. Often, an interviewer must leave early to
get a flight, or is delayed in the morning. If too few students
bid on a firm, the employer may cancel altogether. IT IS IMPERATIVE
THAT YOU CHECK YOUR BOX, EMAIL AND PHONE MESSAGES OFTEN DURING
INTERVIEW SEASON. Even if the employer is responsible for
changing the schedule, it still reflects very poorly on you
as a candidate and on the school in general if you miss an
interview.
Know where you are going! Some interviews take place
in the Law School, but because of increased employer visits,
we also schedule interviews in other buildings on campus,
such as McKenna Hall or the Career and Placement Office in
Flanner Hall. Know in advance where your interview room is
located. There are maps posted in the Resource Center with
room locations. You may be asked to escort the interviewer
to the assigned room. DO NOT check the map or ask a CSO staff
member for directions in front of the interviewer!
This makes you seem unprepared and disorganized, and could
affect the outcome of your interview.
Be armed with a copy of your transcript, a writing sample,
extra resumes, and a list of references. Always have a
copy of your transcript with you when you interview. Almost
all employers will ask for your transcript at some point in
the interviewing process. Usually employers do not need an
official copy until late in the process, so you can simply
photocopy your transcript at first. To obtain a transcript,
you must visit the Registrar's Office in person, or send a
request letter with your full name, address, social security
number, date of graduation, and signature to: Office of
the Registrar, University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame, IN 46556
ATTN: Transcripts. PLAN AHEAD. It can take between 24-48
hours to process your request. Transcripts are free.
Choose a writing sample that represents your writing
skills at their best. It can be a first-year writing assignment
or exam, a document produced for an employer or professor,
or a journal note. It should demonstrate your ability to reason
and work with cases (i.e., a letter to a client is not appropriate,
and neither is an essay about history or philosophy). If necessary,
choose an excerpt, not more than 10 pages, from a lengthy
document; most employers prefer succinct samples! A word of
caution: if you use material you wrote for an employer, you
must get permission to submit it as a writing sample and ALWAYS
remove any identifying names or facts.
Always bring extra resumes and a list of 3-5 references with
you to interviews, whether requested in advance or not! It
shows that you are prepared.
Always show up for your interviews! A "no show"
is a very serious offense. It affects not only your chances
of employment, but also the reputation of the school and your
classmates. An employer who is offended during a visit may
choose to not return next year! If you do not show for an
interview without properly canceling, you will be required
to write a letter of apology to the interviewer. TWO "no
shows" will result in the cancellation of all subsequent
interviews and you will be banned from the CSO for the rest
of the academic year.
Always be on time for your interviews! Everything
you do in this process reflects on the kind of job you will
do for the firm. If you are late, it suggests that you would
be late for other appointments, court appearances and depositions.
If there is a true emergency, contact the CSO and we will
notify the employer.
If you are the first person on the schedule, it is
your duty to escort the interviewer to the interview room
and point out the location of the bathroom. Please arrive
at the Career Services Office (Room 135) twenty minutes before your interview time
to meet the interviewer. Know where you are going in advance.
The employer is expecting you, so failure to show up will
reflect poorly on you. It is, however, a great opportunity
to make a good impression! You actually have a few extra minutes
to impress the employer. Take advantage of it.
Inappropriate questions are rare, but sometimes an
inexperienced interviewer will ask you something that you
find offensive or irrelevant. The best way to handle this
is to gloss over it and move on. For example, if you are asked
if you have children (an illegal question), and you suspect
answering "yes" will hurt your chances, do not yell,
"that is an illegal question" and stomp out of the
room. Instead respond to the interviewer's underlying concern:
"If you are asking if I will be able to devote enough
time and energy to your firm to do a good job, the answer
is yes." However, you should always report such incidents
to the CSO. We have good relationships with the employers
and can gently remind them not to repeat that question. (Note:
we usually do this after the season ends so that it does not
affect the way they evaluate you in the hiring process.)
Questions about class rank
are common. Most schools use a class rank system, so employers
often expect this information. We give grading policy statements
to each interviewer, and we have extras for you if you need
them as proof that Notre Dame doesn't rank. However, you should
address the actual question, i.e., how do you compare academically
to other law students in your class? The best thing you can
do is explain that, although you have no way of knowing your
rank and that you are not allowed to guess, there are some
"guideposts" for measuring student achievement.
Tell them what the mean GPA of your class is. This is released
every semester. Tell them that dean's list is 3.6, and that
X number of people out of a class of Y made it last semester
(go look at the results for your class to find out these numbers).
DO NOT TRY to estimate your class rank: if the next person
to interview has a similar GPA but a different estimate, one
of you will look like you are lying! If all else fails, have
them talk to us. We will explain it to them.
L-STAR
Public Interest Funding
The Law Student Travel and
Accommodations Reimbursement Program (L-STAR).
The Association of American Law Schools (AALS) believes that
the recruiting practices of the military's Judge Advocate
General (JAG) departments are inconsistent with the AALS principle
of equal opportunity to obtain employment without discrimination
or segregation on the ground of race, color, religion, national
origin, sex, age, handicap or disability, or sexual orientation,
as well as with AALS requirements that we obtain written confirmation
from any employer to whom we furnish assistance and facilities
for interviewing and other placement functions of the employer's
compliance with this principle.
Nonetheless, the AALS permits law schools to allow JAG recruiters
on campus, provided that this notice of conflict between AALS
policy and JAG recruitment practices is provided to students
who are considering interviewing with JAG recruiters. Copies
of materials related to this issue (including AALS Bylaw Section
6-4, AALS Executive Committee Regulation 6.19, AALS Memoranda
97-46 and 98-23 and the December 15, 1998 Report of the AALS
Section on Gay and Lesbian Legal Issues) are available in
the Career Services Office and on reserve in the Law Library.
Any concerned gay or lesbian student may consult with Associate
Dean Robinson or Peter Horvath, Director of Student Services.
In addition, students may wish to consult the University's
Standing Committee on Gay and Lesbian Student Needs. The Committee's
web site is http://www.nd.edu/~scglsn/
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The CSO collects resumes for employers who have openings
and would like information on Notre Dame Candidates but who
have not scheduled on-campus interviews. Collects are posted
on Symplicity in the jobs/resume
collect section and can
be identified by conducting a search using the Position Type
drop down menu selecting ‘Fall Resume Collect’.
Students can identify opportunities, research employers,
and review hiring criteria. You will then submit your resume
directly to the CSO. The CSO forwards resume packets to employers,
who then either contact candidates directly or, if there
is enough interest, schedule on campus interviews.
Employers can also request resumes and other documents from
Notre Dame Law Students that is to be sent to them directly.
The Directs can also be found in Symplicity in the jobs/resume
collect section. They can be identified by conducting a search
using the Position Type drop down menu and selecting ‘Resume
Direct’. It is the student’s responsibility to
mail the requested materials directly to the employer.
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